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    rosannajames
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    Here is what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says:

    ///Chastity and homosexuality

    2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,140 tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.”141 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

    2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

    2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.///

    I also really like the Courage site:

    http://couragerc.net/

    Courage, an apostolate of the Roman Catholic Church, ministers to those with same-sex attractions and their loved ones. We have been endorsed by the Pontifical Council for the Family and our beloved John Paul II said of this ministry, “COURAGE is doing the work of God!” We also have an outreach called Encourage which ministers to relatives and friends of persons with same-sex attractions.

    I also like what Courage says about not putting labels on people:

    http://couragerc.net/FAQs.html

    ///Q. Why doesn’t Courage use the terms “gay” and “lesbian”?

    A. Courage discourages persons with same-sex attractions from labeling themselves “gay” and “lesbian” for the following reasons:

    1) The secular world usually uses those terms to refer to someone who is either actively homosexual or intends to be. When a person decides to “come out” and say “I am gay” or “I am lesbian”, the person usually means “this is who I am – I was born this way and I intend to live this way. I have a right to find a same-sex partner with whom to have a romantic sexual relationship.” To “come out” as being “gay” or “lesbian” doesn’t usually mean “I have homosexual attractions and I have a deep commitment to living a chaste life”.

    2) By labeling someone, we discourage those who may wish to try and move beyond homosexual attractions. Some people, especially young people, are able to further their psychosexual development with spiritual and psychological aid. If we labeled them “gay” and “lesbian”, they might think there’s no possibility of moving beyond these attractions.

    3) There is more to a person than one’s sexual attractions. Even if one experienced same-sex attractions for most of one’s life, he or she is first and foremost a child of God created in His image. To refer to that person as “gay” or “lesbian” is a reductionist way of speaking about someone. We are even trying now to avoid using the term homosexual as a noun, or as an adjective directly describing the person (i.e. homosexual person). Although it takes more words, we prefer to speak of “persons with same-sex attractions”. Fr. Harvey has said that, if he could, he would rename his first book “The Homosexual Person” to something else like “The Person With Homosexual Attractions”.

    There are people within the Catholic Church who might argue that those who label themselves “gay” or “lesbian” aren’t necessarily living unchastely. That’s true, but the implications of the terms in today’s society don’t commonly connote chaste living. Furthermore, they are limiting their own possibilities of growth by such self-labeling, and reducing their whole identity by defining themselves according to their sexual attractions. At Courage, we choose not to label people according to an inclination which, although psychologically understandable, is still objectively disordered.///

    Also I think it is so clear in Scripture where this kind of lifestyle is not good:

    http://www.catholic.org/phpframedirect/out.php?url=http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/index.htm

    Romans Chapter 1 Especially verses 26-28

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    While claiming to be wise, they became fools
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    and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.
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    Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts 15 for the mutual degradation of their bodies.
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    They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
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    Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural,
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    and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity.
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    And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper.
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    They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. They are gossips
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    and scandalmongers and they hate God. They are insolent, haughty, boastful, ingenious in their wickedness, and rebellious toward their parents.
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    They are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
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    Although they know the just decree of God that all who practice such things deserve death, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.///

    It is indeed something to pray about because it is everywhere today in movies and on tv. It makes me sad for this generation. I pray that everyone turns to God and truly does His will!

    God bless!

    #2592

    rosannajames
    Member

    I know that my previous post was very long and in case you did not read it all I wanted to reiterate the scripture verses from Romans Chapter 1

    26
    Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural,
    27
    and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity.
    28
    And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper.

    To me, this is very clear that God would not condone active gay or lesbian relationships. It also seems to me that it would be a sin to even have these thoughts in your mind. Like scripture says it is even adultery to think those adulterous kind of thoughts in your mind.

    #2593

    rosannajames
    Member

    Oops I had the same post twice! 8)

    #2594

    Rosannajames,
    Good information for us Catholics. To those of you who wish to believe differently or make up your own rules about this: you need to make sure how you feel about the infallibility of the Church. Are you really Catholic? If so, then you must follow Catholicism as closely as humanly possible and trust in the Church and in God to know what’s best for us. I am not saying to judge these people AT ALL, but if they truly are gay, they are to lead a chaste life according to the RCC…whether it is easy or not is not the point. It is not always easy to do the right thing, but we need to constantly monitor if our morals are in sync with the Catholic faith. Otherwise, how can we truly be Catholic yet pick and choose which facets of Canon law we wish to follow?
    I am a new convert so I am trying to learn as much about the Catholic Church’s teachings as possible. It is definitely taking a lot of faith…especially trying NFP as opposed to methods of ABC. Like I said, it isn’t always easy. But I love the Church and trust in her judgment.
    Good luck with your situation. Continue to love your son and pray for him.
    Heather

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